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  John Denver hates JW's

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  i remember this making the rounds and people swearing by it.

  knew someone at the concern and whatnot.

  how does this crap come up?.

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  These are hilarious! It truly speaks to the ridiculousness of the "inner circle".
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

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  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  Introvert....your comments below are troubling.

  I was not born in and find the Kingdon hope read as the main theme of the Bible. It's there from Gen to Rev. for everyone humble enough too see it.

  You then appeal for others to be open minded. While I agree with you, this is an open firum,a nd Jeramy started the conversation. I think hes big enough to know what some may think and feel. At the end of the day open minded also includes the ability to disagree and accept criticism.

  Your comments are very "JW". You direct specifically the ability to discern "kindom hope" with the quality of "humility" based on nothing more than your personal feeling, while appealing for open mindedness from others.

  I mean this sincerely......you don't see any irony in that my friend?
  
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  Too many things here already for you to respond to. In general I completely understand your point of view. In fact.....I once shared it. Not only did I see the distinction, but because in general I had great relationships, and loved the people in the hall, I thought I would stay for the sake of them, and the good that exists.

  I agree that good exists as well. None of us is 100% good or 100% bad. We are percentages of both, all the time.

  But here is why I could no longer go. I'll try to consolidate the two ideas.

  1) You say Christ has a command to preach, but when you do so associated with the WTBTS, you direct them to that organization. You may think you are not, but you are. Or is your intent not to baptize them? why not just engage in a personal ministry as you see fit? You do not. You take place and therefore represent, the group with whom you disagree.

  2) Blood. This is an incorrect doctrine. thoroughly debunked. If you "witness" to someone, they become a JW, you disagree with this doctrine but you have helped them into an organization where other factors come into play......are you bloodguilty if they or their children die as a result of this stand? It may be an extreme example, but what culpability would I have as a person who directed someone to do something that I personally did not agree with?

  Your conscience is telling you something. Its why you are here. I'm not certain what you feel they have "right" vs "wrong". Maybe that is a good place to start the conversation.

  Its not all bad. But are you tainting your worship to your God by not being authentic? I felt inauthentic, and therefore refused to support the GB in any ancillary way.
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  Question Box: Should JW's use the Internet to witness to people abroad?

  by cappytan in

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  i hadn't seen this posted here yet.. source via wifibandit on exjw subreddit.. what are your thoughts/comments on this?.

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  Close guys but that is not the answer.

  While the KM is stating this about "other countries", it is implied that this is not the way to witness at all. I know many people who carry on a "study" via e mail, skype, etc...

  I think this is meant to generally steer away from that being considered a reasonable mode of preaching.
  
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  How Do You Feel About All The Time You Wasted Being. A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  all that i can say is....what a shame!

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  Im conflicted. I met my wife as a JW. Most of my good friends are JW's, long time and newish. I enjoyed my childhood and didn't grow up weird like some others.

  On the other hand I didn't go to college, didn't play sports, and wasted some time in "spiritual pursuits".

  On the whole I don't regret anything in my life really. I enjoy where I am at. I have good people around me, my family, and profitable work. I can't stand my former religion, and it still affects my life negatively, but i am now in control.

  Ultimately we are all responsible for our own decisions on every level. I have decided to live a good life.
  
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  Atheist Miracles

  by Perry in

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  i reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.

  no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!

  they keep me from getting bored.

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  The "its so complicated and if I contextually point out that the numbers are really big so the only reasonable answer is that God did it" arguement is a classic fallacy Perry.
  

  As a former believer, I don't know how life got here, but it seems clear it evolved. Most Christians must agree to the concept at least, because otherwise there is no way to explain diversity from the Ark containing all species in the world only 4 thousand years ago.
  
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  JW Records Request - United States

  by cappytan in

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  has anyone in the united states ever successfully gotten their publisher records from the society?

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  I chose my name here when I signed up because I felt like I "liked" the drama a bit. Hard to explain. I think the anger made me want to push buttons. It took me some time, and honestly I still when I think about it feel like I could have done more, said more, gone on more of a limb etc... But I fight that feeling. Because of the way it went down i got my wife out, was not DF'd, and still talk to my family. Who knows if that will last, but my wife and kids are with me, so who cares about the rest.

  Sorry about the masturbating husband. I'm sure your exit story is pretty awesome. When it doesn't sting, post a welcome story with your story (or if you feel like it).

  If you're ever in south cali look us up.
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  John Denver hates JW's

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  i remember this making the rounds and people swearing by it.

  knew someone at the concern and whatnot.

  how does this crap come up?.

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  John Denver hates us, Paul Simon called us a name, and Neil Diamond thinks we're gay! Clearly we are the most persecuted people on the planet!
  
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  JW Records Request - United States

  by cappytan in

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  has anyone in the united states ever successfully gotten their publisher records from the society?

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  Welcome C Lynne,

  I got you. With the anger fresh, you want to just turn it on them. but there is only so far you can go that it is beneficial to you. I went after one of the enders that removed me....hard. In the end he was a CO at one time and getting him removed wasn't going to happen. But......I got to embarrass the crap out of him and make him look like the fool he was. That was good enough for me. :)

  Also a guy like this will do way more damage to the congregation staying an elder than being removed.

  I say if you are up for it, send a letter. if you have the money, have your lawyer draw up the letter. But be prepared for a stone wall. Honestly, if you get it, what do you expect would happen? They call you an apostate, say you are a slut, and that they think you might even believe in evolution!! So what. What then.

  I FULLY understand wanting your pound of flesh. Get it. But just don't postpone your life over it.

  Once again welcome.
  
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  John Denver hates JW's

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
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  i remember this making the rounds and people swearing by it.

  knew someone at the concern and whatnot.

  how does this crap come up?.

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  ....or maybe not. I remember this making the rounds and people swearing by it. Knew someone at the concern and whatnot. How does this crap come up?

  http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/ordered.asp